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		<title>Comment on The REAL danger of the internet in schools by Mr W</title>
		<link>http://www.insidelearning.net/?p=73&#038;cpage=1#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a really good summary of the current position. You are spot on throughout.

I really like your take on the state of play over the last 10 years:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Our school rules and practices are probably 5 to 10 years out of date in the context of the internet age.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Though in one sense (ironically) things were easier then as very few schools had any form of filtering when they first accessed the internet... and I don&#039;t remember Western Civilization crumbling as a result!

The simple fact is that we need to start teaching pupils as soon as they start formal education… not least because most of them have already started to use the internet at home. As you correctly point out, &quot;we need to guide them&quot;. We cannot pretend that it doesn&#039;t exist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a really good summary of the current position. You are spot on throughout.</p>
<p>I really like your take on the state of play over the last 10 years:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our school rules and practices are probably 5 to 10 years out of date in the context of the internet age.</p></blockquote>
<p>Though in one sense (ironically) things were easier then as very few schools had any form of filtering when they first accessed the internet&#8230; and I don&#8217;t remember Western Civilization crumbling as a result!</p>
<p>The simple fact is that we need to start teaching pupils as soon as they start formal education… not least because most of them have already started to use the internet at home. As you correctly point out, &#8220;we need to guide them&#8221;. We cannot pretend that it doesn&#8217;t exist!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The REAL danger of the internet in schools by Bill Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent summary of the current dilemma Mathew, and a realisation that if we remain in a state of fear and paralysis for much longer there is a real danger that school will rapidly become less and less relevant even for those who are highly motivated at the moment. I wonder also about the development of GLOW in all of this as well, and whether - even at the same time as providing an excellent service for the Scottish education community - it will make teachers even less likely to discusss internet safety with kids, in the mistaken belief that passwords and filters can protect them from the &#039;real&#039; world for ever.
I am also interested in Liz&#039;s view that most people would find it schocking that teachers were discussing pornography or &#039;what inappropriate images&#039; are with young people. Surely this is exactly what teachers should be discussing with them at the appropriate time and in the appropriate context (literacy, health and well-being?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent summary of the current dilemma Mathew, and a realisation that if we remain in a state of fear and paralysis for much longer there is a real danger that school will rapidly become less and less relevant even for those who are highly motivated at the moment. I wonder also about the development of GLOW in all of this as well, and whether &#8211; even at the same time as providing an excellent service for the Scottish education community &#8211; it will make teachers even less likely to discusss internet safety with kids, in the mistaken belief that passwords and filters can protect them from the &#8216;real&#8217; world for ever.<br />
I am also interested in Liz&#8217;s view that most people would find it schocking that teachers were discussing pornography or &#8216;what inappropriate images&#8217; are with young people. Surely this is exactly what teachers should be discussing with them at the appropriate time and in the appropriate context (literacy, health and well-being?).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The REAL danger of the internet in schools by Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that impacts on discussion surrounding this issue is the use of terms like &quot;inappropriate content&quot; and &quot;danger&quot;. As a teacher, I can openly discuss what phishing and spamming are, why they are dangerous and how to spot them. But can I do the same with pornography? Could I have the same discussion? Probably not! It really doesn&#039;t matter how grown up we are about sex and relationships (I&#039;m a biology teacher, it really doesn&#039;t bother me!). It would be shocking to most people if they thought that teachers  discussed what &quot;inappropriate images&quot; actually are, or why they are inappropriate. This isn&#039;t going to be fixed by a carefully worded letter to parents. The internet has fundamentally altered society&#039;s relationship with pornography, but we still don&#039;t know how to deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that impacts on discussion surrounding this issue is the use of terms like &#8220;inappropriate content&#8221; and &#8220;danger&#8221;. As a teacher, I can openly discuss what phishing and spamming are, why they are dangerous and how to spot them. But can I do the same with pornography? Could I have the same discussion? Probably not! It really doesn&#8217;t matter how grown up we are about sex and relationships (I&#8217;m a biology teacher, it really doesn&#8217;t bother me!). It would be shocking to most people if they thought that teachers  discussed what &#8220;inappropriate images&#8221; actually are, or why they are inappropriate. This isn&#8217;t going to be fixed by a carefully worded letter to parents. The internet has fundamentally altered society&#8217;s relationship with pornography, but we still don&#8217;t know how to deal with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More fun please by Leigh Newton</title>
		<link>http://www.insidelearning.net/?p=70&#038;cpage=1#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;An inability to manage fears over public accountability.&quot;

I particularly appreciate this one.  Through the fear of litigation schools administrators have gone into defensive mode over online social-networking, yet it is social-networking that offers so much potential for students to build learning networks, collaborate with like-minded others and take control of their own learning.  Very few administrators appreciate this potential and thus enforce less than inspiring learning methods. Ironically our same students are highly connected at home and potentially engaging in risky behaviour because they have not learnt at school that online behaviour has offline consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An inability to manage fears over public accountability.&#8221;</p>
<p>I particularly appreciate this one.  Through the fear of litigation schools administrators have gone into defensive mode over online social-networking, yet it is social-networking that offers so much potential for students to build learning networks, collaborate with like-minded others and take control of their own learning.  Very few administrators appreciate this potential and thus enforce less than inspiring learning methods. Ironically our same students are highly connected at home and potentially engaging in risky behaviour because they have not learnt at school that online behaviour has offline consequences.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More fun please by dave t</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent and so much I can identify with too! My attitude is QRF - learning needs to be of quality, relevant and FUN!. My kids say they learn more and enjoy English more because we often just stop and think or stop to have a break and some fun or just stop. Sometimes we ALL need to just stop, gather our thoughts and then move on to what we need to do.

Have printed your post off for regular inspiration - thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent and so much I can identify with too! My attitude is QRF &#8211; learning needs to be of quality, relevant and FUN!. My kids say they learn more and enjoy English more because we often just stop and think or stop to have a break and some fun or just stop. Sometimes we ALL need to just stop, gather our thoughts and then move on to what we need to do.</p>
<p>Have printed your post off for regular inspiration &#8211; thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Brain that Changes Itself by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the blog link and your thoughts on the brain plasticity stuff. I had no desire to be patronising, only to provoke the kind of useful thinking and input that you as an expert have provided. I&#039;m not sure that every support for learning professional will be as clued up as you seem to be however. The Learning File, eh! Blast from the past Hilery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog link and your thoughts on the brain plasticity stuff. I had no desire to be patronising, only to provoke the kind of useful thinking and input that you as an expert have provided. I&#8217;m not sure that every support for learning professional will be as clued up as you seem to be however. The Learning File, eh! Blast from the past Hilery.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Brain that Changes Itself by Hilery Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilery Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
I make frequent use of your resource The Learning File, so thank you for that.

I, too, have blogged about Doidge&#039;s work here: http://hileryjane.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/compensation-or-intervention/ 

As someone who has worked in ASN for many years, I agree that we need to consider this research. However, your use of the word &#039;primitive&#039; to describe &#039;much of learning support&#039; is somewhat patronising and ill-informed.

This is what I wrote in my blog post on Doidge&#039;s work:

I do take issue with Doidge&#039;s contention that compensatory interventions are to be deplored. He used the example of students with poor memory tape recording lectures. As I tapped away on my netbook knowing all would disappear into the ether otherwise, he declared that because such strategies do not address the aetiology of the problem they were to be discouraged.
I was distressed by the a clip of little children with poor motor control whose good arms were encased in plaster all day so as to re-train damaged limbs. Doidge stressed the necessity of incremental concentrated practice to enable new neurons to take over lost functions. 

There can be no argument that such interventions must have a profound and positive effect upon the nervous system and that eventually re-generation is possible. 

However, Doidge seems to ignore the impact on a child’s need to belong, to feel as much like his or her peers as possible. I still shudder at the memory of the patch I had to wear to correct a lazy eye and the ostracism I endured. Had I been of a piractical disposition I might have got away with it.

While Doidge’s talk focused principally on neurological difficulties that result in physical symptoms, he also appeared to say that teachers of children with learning difficulties were working inappropriately unless they acted to ‘re-programme’ the brain. 

This is a concern many of us have for  much of our working life. But realistically – and for the sake of learners’ sense of self worth – is is also our job to provide alternative strategies and resources if children are failing to learn at the pace of their peers or their own intellectual capacity. The balance between spending time improving memory skills and teaching a child to use an electronic word bank, for example, is one that we need to examine regularly. 
This may mean that the learner will always have difficulty in some areas – but then, don’t we all?

I wish to add that our job - the job of all teachers - is to support learners; not to make them fit into an antiquated and creaking 19th century system. We cannot &#039;cure&#039; dyslexia, for example, but we can embrace the strengths that learners with dyslexia bring to learning and even try to emulate them rather than place them in ghettos of failure.
&#039;Re-programming&#039; our smokestack schooling may be a more creative and worthwhile use of our energies if we wish to enable all learners to develop exponentially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I make frequent use of your resource The Learning File, so thank you for that.</p>
<p>I, too, have blogged about Doidge&#8217;s work here: <a href="http://hileryjane.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/compensation-or-intervention/" rel="nofollow">http://hileryjane.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/compensation-or-intervention/</a> </p>
<p>As someone who has worked in ASN for many years, I agree that we need to consider this research. However, your use of the word &#8216;primitive&#8217; to describe &#8216;much of learning support&#8217; is somewhat patronising and ill-informed.</p>
<p>This is what I wrote in my blog post on Doidge&#8217;s work:</p>
<p>I do take issue with Doidge&#8217;s contention that compensatory interventions are to be deplored. He used the example of students with poor memory tape recording lectures. As I tapped away on my netbook knowing all would disappear into the ether otherwise, he declared that because such strategies do not address the aetiology of the problem they were to be discouraged.<br />
I was distressed by the a clip of little children with poor motor control whose good arms were encased in plaster all day so as to re-train damaged limbs. Doidge stressed the necessity of incremental concentrated practice to enable new neurons to take over lost functions. </p>
<p>There can be no argument that such interventions must have a profound and positive effect upon the nervous system and that eventually re-generation is possible. </p>
<p>However, Doidge seems to ignore the impact on a child’s need to belong, to feel as much like his or her peers as possible. I still shudder at the memory of the patch I had to wear to correct a lazy eye and the ostracism I endured. Had I been of a piractical disposition I might have got away with it.</p>
<p>While Doidge’s talk focused principally on neurological difficulties that result in physical symptoms, he also appeared to say that teachers of children with learning difficulties were working inappropriately unless they acted to ‘re-programme’ the brain. </p>
<p>This is a concern many of us have for  much of our working life. But realistically – and for the sake of learners’ sense of self worth – is is also our job to provide alternative strategies and resources if children are failing to learn at the pace of their peers or their own intellectual capacity. The balance between spending time improving memory skills and teaching a child to use an electronic word bank, for example, is one that we need to examine regularly.<br />
This may mean that the learner will always have difficulty in some areas – but then, don’t we all?</p>
<p>I wish to add that our job &#8211; the job of all teachers &#8211; is to support learners; not to make them fit into an antiquated and creaking 19th century system. We cannot &#8216;cure&#8217; dyslexia, for example, but we can embrace the strengths that learners with dyslexia bring to learning and even try to emulate them rather than place them in ghettos of failure.<br />
&#8216;Re-programming&#8217; our smokestack schooling may be a more creative and worthwhile use of our energies if we wish to enable all learners to develop exponentially.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mac Vs PC in Schools &#124; Rachna</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Gregmeet &#8211; Just show me the gain! by admin</title>
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		<description>Like you I worry about our confidence to grasp this opportunity Fiona. However, we are becoming a little more confident, even if it is two steps forward and one step back! I totally agree with everything you are saying here and wish that I had written some of it myself:-)

Enjoy that well earned break and lets hope that you return from it a little less shy and withdrawn.

See you soon Fiona</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you I worry about our confidence to grasp this opportunity Fiona. However, we are becoming a little more confident, even if it is two steps forward and one step back! I totally agree with everything you are saying here and wish that I had written some of it myself:-)</p>
<p>Enjoy that well earned break and lets hope that you return from it a little less shy and withdrawn.</p>
<p>See you soon Fiona</p>
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